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Bounce! Conversations with Larry Weeks

Interviews w/ authors, entrepreneurs, athletes and others on resilience, getting on or getting over life’s set ups and setbacks.

On the podcast Larry has in-depth conversations with notable people from a variety of fields and occupations; professors, entrepreneurs, athletes, physicians, etc, to get their stories or research on how to deal with or prepare for life’s challenges, stumbles, and stings. If research exists on how people bounce back, he talks about it. If there are physical practices, proven psychologies or philosophies that can help people build personal foundations before the storms come, he digs into it.

Jun 30, 2017

Dr. David Burns, MD is the author of the best-selling, "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy," which has sold more than five million copies worldwide. Feeling Good is the book most frequently “prescribed” for depressed patients by psychiatrists and psychologists in the United States and Canada. Surveys indicate that American mental health professionals rate Feeling Good as the #1 book on depression, out of a list of 1,000 self-help books.

People are not disturbed by things, but by the views, they take of them - Epictetus

This is the basic premise of CBT (Cognitive Behavior Therapy) Dr. Burns popularized in Feeling Good. The way we think about things create all of our emotions, positive or negative. A simple idea some 2,500 years old tracing even before the Stoics to the time of Buddha.

Yet, it’s so obvious that very few people grasp it or understand how to use it and many frankly just do not believe it. The concept that horrible things do not cause negative feelings seems untethered from real experience. “A” happens, and I feel “C.” They miss the  “B,” a belief or interpretation of “A” that then leads to “C.”

On our podcast, Dr. Burns tells the story of a woman diagnosed with terminal cancer, and she became extremely depressed but she didn't want to spend the last two years of her life feeling worthless so enter Dr. Burns. Dr. Burns ascertained that she had two chained thoughts, “I'm letting my family down, they won't survive without me” and “it's my fault that I got cancer and It was those specific thoughts rather than the diagnosis that was causing her extreme emotional distress. Yes, sadness is normal in this case “but you can you make it worse when piling on irrational negative thoughts.”

Most of us do this to ourselves that we're not are not aware of it.

Dr. Burns says that depression is the world's oldest con and that when you are upset most of the time the thoughts that upset you will be distorted. They're a fraud.

Depression is the world's oldest con.

“We can put up with almost anything if we think it's it's going to end. There's something weird about depression that it cons you into thinking it will be like this forever, you're no good, and you'll always be no good and your problems will never be solved, and it just seems overwhelmingly valid.”

Listen is as we discuss CBT and how you can apply it to help you manage your thoughts.

This is life-changing stuff, you need to hear it.

Show Notes

[00:14:15] His discovery of CBT when doing brain research on chemical imbalances

[00:16:30] How difficult it was to publish Feeling Good

[00:19:34] How much significance should one put on one's either past or childhood

[00:23:40] The cause of negative feelings

[00:24:02] The physiology of depression vs pathology of depression. 

[00:25:41] Genetics of depression and happiness.

[00:26:17] Why Dr. Burns loves to treat anxiety disorders

[00:27:12] As a Doctor how Dr. Burns cured himself of blood phobia.

[00:32:45] The four models of anxiety.

[00:39:26] His view on medication / psychopharmacology

[00:42:33] The key cognitive distortions warping your thinking

[00:47:37] What really leads to suicidal urges

 [00:50:24] The issues with “self-esteem”