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Bounce! Conversations with Larry Weeks

Interviews w/ authors, entrepreneurs, athletes and others on resilience, getting on or getting over life’s set ups and setbacks.

On the podcast Larry has in-depth conversations with notable people from a variety of fields and occupations; professors, entrepreneurs, athletes, physicians, etc, to get their stories or research on how to deal with or prepare for life’s challenges, stumbles, and stings. If research exists on how people bounce back, he talks about it. If there are physical practices, proven psychologies or philosophies that can help people build personal foundations before the storms come, he digs into it.

Aug 3, 2022

My guest is Mary-Frances O'Connor.

Mary-Francis is a professor of Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Arizona and is the Director of the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress Lab, where she and her colleagues are creating new frameworks for understanding grief and the grieving process; and her book The Grieving Brain: The Surprising Science of How We Learn from Love and Loss is the topic of this episode.

On the show, we discuss...

  • Her work at the lab and what she is learning about grief
  • What happens to the brain when someone is experiencing grief
  • Defining complicated grief
  • An update on Elisabeth Kübler-Ross’s grief model
  • How grief is prolonged
  • We discuss the mortality rates for those who fail to adapt to loss
  • General loss, death isn't the only loss type we grieve; it can be a job, an identity, or anything we are attached to
  • How lost loved ones really stay with us, outside of any mystical experience

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